Gallia, Jackson, Meigs & Vinton Solid Waste Management District
The Policy Committee of the Gallia, Jackson, Meigs & Vinton Solid Waste Management
District met Wednesday, July 6, 2011 at 2:00 p.m.
Call to Order
Chairman, Harold Montgomery, called the meeting to order @ 2:00 p.m.
Roll Call was taken with the following members present: Gallia County: Harold Montgomery,
James Cozza, Jimmy Allen, Terry Hemby for Barb Bradley, Doug Lester, Randy Halley;
Jackson County: Randy Heath, Greg Ervin, Roy Arthur, Jerry Hall, Tom Woltz; Meigs
County: Tom Anderson, Mike Gerlach, Jon Jacobs, Marilyn Anderson, John Musser; Vinton
County: Mike Bledsoe, Jim Wooddell (late for Roll Call), L.J. Stewart for Nick Rupert,
Jerry Hawk for Matt Chesser, Jerry Zinn for Vicky Maxwell. Guests included: Bruce
Downard, Tom Wallace and Nick Rupert, Jr. of Rumpke; District Staff present were
Terri Marchi, Mike Massie and Cindy Saltsman and District Attorney, Bill Cole.
Guests introduced themselves and then Minutes of 6/22/11 were reviewed. Cindy Saltsman
told the Committee that she had made a couple of changes to the minutes which were:
adding Milton Township Trustee of Jackson County to guests Mike Hall and Phil Thompsons
names and she had Mike Bledsoe as chairman on the signature line and it was changed
to Harold Montgomery’s name. Mike Bledsoe also had a correction to the minutes:
on page four the last paragraph: when asked if the commissioners would make the
same recommendation knowing of the changes Mike Bledsoe said he said “Would have
absolutely voted the same way”. Greg Ervin made a motion to accept the minutes as
corrected, Jon Jacobs seconded the motion. All were in favor, motion passed.
Terri asked the Committee if those who had email addresses if it was alright to forward
all information via email instead of thru the mail and those that did said it was
okay to do so.
Board of Directors Update
Jerry Zinn, Vinton County Commissioner, gave a presentation with some insight on
the Board recommended the fee structure to $1.50/$3.00/$1.50. Jerry said he didn’t
it was fair for the Committee to come in here not knowing any details to base their
decision on. The Board has put a lot of time in looking at the budget to see where
we can become solvent. Jerry passed out the scenarios they based their decision on
(Attached as part of these minutes). With the $1.00/$2.00/$1.00 scenario the District
would be broke in 2014 with a deficit of $376,949. If that happens, they go back
to each county and millage goes on everyone’s taxes. Rumpke has already said the
tonnage would not be back where it was. The $1.50/$3.00/$1.50 scenario was looked
and Jerry said even with these figures the carry-over goes down $150,000 year. That
means we are going to have to make changes in our recycling programs and the services
we offer within the district. This will happen even if the tonnage is back at the
was. Jerry said he looked at the inflation table and with the $2.00 we had it is
now. If you just go on inflation, the $1.50/$3.00/$1.50 is not out of line. We are
the middle with all the solid waste districts in the state of Ohio. Terri Marchi
of the multi county districts there are 8 @ 2/4/2 and 8 @ 1/2/1 and a variety of
in the middle. Rumpke is now hauling to Brown County, which is a longer haul. Brown
County said they were not interested in the increased tonnage coming in there, they
concerned with the life of their landfill. Jerry said it was nothing against Rumpke,
a matter of being solvent. Jerry said he would hate to go back to the citizens and
put taxes on to support the Solid Waste District. Jerry said we have a better shot
it solvent with the $1.50/$3.00/$1.50 scenario. With the 1/2/1 scenario it is 100%
that it will be on the taxes. Tom Woltz asked if the figures were based on the 2010,
2008 tonnages. Cindy Saltsman said the figures were based on the average tonnage
January thru May of 2011. Randy Heath asked if the figures in yellow were a minor
or a major drop in tonnage and Terri Marchi said those projections were made before
we got official notice of the diversion of tonnage. Jerry Zinn said they reflect
business as it was, this does not reflect the diversion of trash from Beech Hollow.
Jerry said they just want to be fair and what they recommended was right in the
middle. If they wanted to be argumentative they would have just left it at 2/4/2.
We are trying to compromise and work out an equitable solution. We propose (the
Board of Directors) that the Policy Committee adopt the $1.50/$3.00/$1.50.
Terri Marchi told the Committee to look at the financials in their packets (attached
as part of these minutes). The revenue is based upon Rumpke bringing in “in district”
only. The expenditures were trimmed down to reflect them as realistically as we
could. 2012 and 2013 were trimmed down as well, we plugged in a 3% increase in the
line items we have no control over. In salaries and fringes there is no reduction
there because at this time we don’t know what the table of organization of the GJMVSWMD
to remain solvent is going to look like. Terri said to keep in mind that the main
thing we have to provide to the citizens of these four counties is recycling opportunities
to 90% of the district. We are doing that now and then some. It could be that we
may have to dial back our recycling activities to drop-off only as opposed to the
office paper recycling, not having the buyback, the assistance to the City of Jackson,
Village of Coalton, Village of Oak hill, and assistance to Meigs County. The budgets
in 2012 and 2013 reflect reductions in the service provision but not complete elimination.
The salaries and fringes were left at 1% increase in 2012 and 3% increase in 2013.
Those figures are in response to what will it take to get us through until the next
plan update. These figures are different than the ones Jerry passed out mainly because
of the diversion of tonnage from Beech Hollow. Terri went on to say that the District
has challenges ahead of us as far as what the district looks like, what kind of money
it is going to take to provide what is mandatory for us to provide. If we can continue
to provide additional programs or if we go another route. To put our mandatory recycling
program, which would be the 90%, out to bid. Then a company like Rumpke would bid
to provide our recycling activities for us.
The following comments/questions were made/asked by some of the members:
Randy Heath asked if recycling was in the Buyback $113,000 line item and Terri said
that is correct. Randy went on to ask what was in Contract Services. Terri said
legal, the last payment for the building, contracts with the sheriff’s and health
departments, Meigs County recycling, hauling recyclables away from the recycling
center, things like that. The reduction in 2013 from 2012 reflects the payment of
the building being paid off in 2012. Randy said when he became Mayor of Jackson,
the citizens wanted the recycling program brought back. They made an investment
in it, they took an employee from another department and put them on recycling. We
have 900 to 1000 homes participating in the recycling program and our schools have
really taken a great interest as well. Randy said his fear was they were going to
teach a whole generation of children that it just wasn’t worth and don’t need to
recycle anymore. Three years of dedicated effort for future generations is out the
Mike Bledsoe said they have to remember that they are talking about four counties
here. Mike asked what the Health Departments received and Terri said two of them
go $25,000 and two got $23,000, Cindy corrected the $23,000 and said it was $21,000.
Mike asked how much the Sheriff Departments received and Terri said $200,000. Mike
said it is not just one thing. Mike said if we have start to cutting back in the
four counties, it’s going to be the Health Departments, the Sheriff Departments,
were not just talking to cut back one thing. Terri said in the contract services
line item, she did cut those things. Mike Bledsoe said their Health Departments
uses the money contributed from the Board as match monies from other grants, our
Sheriff Departments uses the money out picking up trash off the roads. Mike said
if we start cutting these programs to get the budget inline, we’re talking four counties
and the cities.
Jim Wooddell asked if what was in parentheses on page two was a positive and Terri
said it was a negative. Jim asked if that was on the $1.50/$3.00/$1.50 and Terri
said yes. Terri said this is a significant decrease. At $1.50/$3.00/$1.50, it is
our understanding that tonnage will not be coming into Beech Hollow, those are projected
receipts coming in for in district only. Jim clarified the reason Rumpke is taking
the tonnage out of district to Brown County because it helps them financially. Bruce
said we are paying $1.50/$3.00/$1.50 at Brown County. Someone has said it costs
us more to take it there but it is not costing us more to take it to Brown County.
We are a direct haul to a landfill across the river with no fees so the net, bottom
line to Rumpke, is it makes more sense to do what they are doing than to pay the
Tom Woltz wanted to know what the life expectancy of the Brown County Landfill once
you increase the tonnage. Bruce said right now it was 50 years and that that included
the increase. Tom Woltz asked with 1000 tons increase and Bruce said they are not
getting 1000 a day. Tom Wallace of Rumpke said the stuff along the river is going
to Kentucky and the stuff from the Circleville/Fayette County was going to Brown
County. Bruce said over 400 tons a day is going to Kentucky.
Harold Montgomery wanted clarification on the $1.50/$3.00/$1.50 and 2/4/2, if the
fees are these, you take the tonnage to other landfills. Bruce said yes. Harold
said Rumpke is only looking at 1/2/1 and Bruce said yes.
Tom Wallace asked if the figures included the Meigs County transfer station tonnage.
Cindy Saltsman said we do not receive any monies from the Meigs County transfer
station. Terri said if the tonnage was landfilled we receive a fee.
Jim Wooddell asked if the figures on page three were a positive figure, the $422,000
amount. Terri said it was a positive. Jim said you are assuming that the tonnage
has increased. Terri said we are going on the verbal from Bruce that if the landfill
fees are 1/2/1 the tonnage would resume at Beech Hollow and those numbers were based
on the averages of 2011. Bruce said if it was at 1/2/1 the tonnage would be the
same as it was last month, which we did about 1500 to 1600 tons per day.
Randy Heath asked when the current Plan was up and Terri said 2013. Randy went on
to say that obviously Rumpke has a long term future at that landfill and wanted to
know if in the future say 2050 it has to be 1/2/1 then. Bruce said they feel like
at 1/2/1 they can be competitive. You make your money on volume. The price goes
up the volume goes down. Bruce said for fifteen years we have steadily increased
the tonnage, the tonnage we have lost we are trying to find the tonnage to replace
it with. Tom Wallace said he does third party sales, 90% of that in the landfill.
He finds it more competitive at Kentucky than here. You don’t have to pay anything
at the Kentucky site, they have C & D sites where you don’t have to pay anything
but $60.00. If you bring it in Ohio you have to pay the fees on them, Health Departments
get a fee off of it. Greg Ervin said they got a small fee. Tom Wallace said he
didn’t say it was a great fee, they get a cut the State gets a cut, then pay the
disposal. Harold Montgomery said the restrictions Tom was speaking of in Ohio is
something we have to deal with and also, we have recycling and demands they don’t
have there in Kentucky. Harold said he knows we are competing against those areas
and Tom Wallace said you are also competing with the landfills and solid waste districts
right next door to you. Harold said at the same time we have a landfill in Gallia
County that has been paying 2/4/2 for fifteen years, no rebates or anything of that
nature. Waste Management is in Gallia County trying to compete for tonnage that
Rumpke is landfilling for 1/2/1 and Waste Management is paying 2/4/2. There again
there is not an equal field there. Harold went on to say that this Policy Committee
is here to establish a rate since we don’t have a contract to encompass our full
district. There are two operating landfills, one in Gallia County and one in Jackson
County, Meigs County waste goes out of district. We have to look at a just fee,
whether it is 1/3/1, 2/4/2 or 1/2/1, we know everyone has to compete with other entities
to make a profit. No disrespect to Rumpke or anyone else, we have to focus on what
we feel is best for our district at the point. We have obligations to carry on that
has been put on every district in the state. We have a mechanism to generate income
pay for them without going back to the tax payers (as Jerry and Mike have stated).
Right now we are able to provide this without tax payers paying for it.
Randy Heath wanted clarification on the 1/2/1 scenario. He said we are going to
have a greater ending balance with $422,000 than if we go to $1.50/$3.00/$1.50 and
they do not bring in that trash then we are $681,000 in the hole. Whatever boat
we take today, when will it take effect? Terri said not until the ratification process
is done. After some confusion on when the tonnage would be coming in and when it
was not, Bruce Downard said he would have to talk to Andy about that. If we knew
it was going to be a 1/2/1 and that process was started and it looked like that was
going to be ratified, would we turn our tons around tomorrow or next week and haul
it in under the 2-4-2 rate until its ratified, he may do that. Bruce said again
“may”: “he’s the vice president, I’m just the manager”.
Tom Woltz asked whether there was a potential for an increase in tonnage at the Gallia
County Landfill if the fees are lowered. Harold Montgomery said there is potential
but not at that magnitude because it is a smaller operation, their permit is at 600
tons per day maximum. Tom asked what they were currently at and Harold said 150.
Bruce Downard said if the fees are 1/2/1, they would put a guarantee of an annual
dollar amount of $600,000 on the table, guaranteed. Whether we bring in 200,000
tons or 10,000 tons, we will guarantee $600,000.
Tom Woltz asked if the fees were ever changed. Terri said they have always been
at 2/4/2. Bruce said with the contract it was a tiered system, the first 500 tons
it was $2.50 the second 500 it was $1.50. Tom Woltz said currently you are getting
1/2/1 and Bruce said that is correct. Tom Woltz said if you were dumping $24.00
per ton in 1996, you are not still dumping at $24.00 per ton. Terri asked Bruce
if it was still $28.85 and Bruce said it was now at $32.00. Bill Cole said the contract
kept the gate rate low. Tom Woltz also mentioned that earlier in the year there
was discussion about recycling things that could be done to offset that 1/2/1 versus
the 2/4/2, have those been explored by either party? Harold Montgomery said there
are two different issues there. We have discussed with Rumpke about the recycling
of the district, it has to go out to bid. We can’t just award a contract, if it’s
over $25,000 it has to be bid. So there may be other entities that may want to bid
for recycling for our district. Tom Woltz said he was not referring to that, he
was referring to someone purchasing equipment for sorting and separating for your
garbage. Harold said that was in Columbus but we still would have to go out for
a bid on. Tom Woltz said he wasn’t sure if there was in ORC that would allow for
a joint venture between a corporation and a government agency that would help to
facilitate something of that nature. Bill Cole said we can contract, we are mandated
by statue for recycling.
Tom Anderson wanted to know what our guaranteed tonnage was right now. Terri said
zero. Tom asked what it was. Terri said it was $615,000. Bruce Downard said it
wasn’t a guaranteed tonnage amount it was a guaranteed dollar amount. Tom asked
Bruce if at 1/2/1 could he guarantee tonnage. Bruce said no, he could guarantee
a dollar amount. Tom asked if the $600,000 amount would keep us solvent. Jerry
Zinn said no. Terri said not unless we make some changes operationally as well.
Bruce said last year they brought $756,000. The $600,000 was a minimum guarantee,
it is in their best interest to bring in more tons.
Randy Halley brought up what Mike Massie brought up at last meeting. The Chillicothe
facility was 45 miles farther to go to Brown County than Beech Hollow, which amounts
to 90 miles both ways. Randy Halley said he has been in the trucking business a
lot of years and when you are discussing an 80,000# truck, you are talking about
6 miles per gallon, that’s 15 gallons of fuel. At $4.00 a gallon fuel at a reduced
rate you are talking about a $60.00 fee in fuel. These trucks probably weigh about
30,000. They probably get about 5 miles to a gallon and that’s 25 tons at $1.00
per ton on a ration of 1/2/1 to $1.50/$3.00/$1.50. Out of district trash would raise
$1.00 a ton. That’s $25.00 a load versus $60.00 a load.
Randy Halley said of course you have other set costs. Bruce said they used to have
eight trucks run out of Haver Hill with three runs everyday, we no longer have that.
Those tons are being direct hauled into River City Disposal. Randy Halley asked
if Bruce ended the contract with Joe Ramey who hauled for them and Bruce said no.
Bruce said he still does some for them. Bruce said since we lost those tons and
those tons are no longer coming in, he no longer has to run a trash tipper at the
Greg Ervin wanted to know from a legal perspective because it is going to take six
months to change the fees, is there any possibility of some kind of agreement with
the three facilities to offer incentive or rebate back at the current fees which
is the 2/4/2. Harold Montgomery said we only have two facilities and Greg said Pike
Sanitation had some involvement. Bill Cole said he thought we could contract with
them as long as we have rationale for it. Greg said if we could do something like
that maybe that would be incentive. Maybe a good faith effort. If this process
is going through and going to change maybe something that would better fit Rumpke’s
business plan. Could also be something going back as that tonnage increases, the
same for Gallia County. Mike Bledsoe said to Bill Cole he thought EPA said there
could be no contracts. Bill said no, what EPA said was that the contract expired
and we could no longer pay them under that Plan, the Plan says its done. They (EPA)
did tell Terri we could enter into a Memorandum of Understanding. Terri said it
should have an out clause for both parties and is not binding. Bill said he understands
that that is EPA’s position. Terri said that you cannot use a contractual agreement
to circumvent the fee structure comment which has been consistently been communicated
from the EPA office. Bill said the letter did no say that. Terri said that is correct
but he (Andrew Booker) did go on record and said that. Bill Cole said he understood
but when he put it in writing it was not there, it was simply that the contract expired.
Mike Bledsoe said when he met with the Board it was on record that he said no more
contract. Bill Cole said he understood that but there are contracts in the state
and Rumpke’s position is we can enter into a contract with them and they are willing
to indemnify us for any liability we would have.
Harold Montgomery read Resolution 0711 – A (attached as part of these minutes)
Mike Bledsoe said upon recommendation of the Executive Board to the District Board
of Directors, Mike Bledsoe made a motion to approve Resolution 0711 – A, Jerry Zinn
seconded the motion. Discussion then followed:
Randy Heath asked Bill Cole if there were those that had other feelings on this.
Does this measure have to be disposed of one way or the other before and other consideration
could be given to other fees. Bill Cole said once this resolution is passed the
District will immediately start the process to change the fees. Randy said what
he was asking was does this have to be voted down before another fee structure could
be considered. Does it have to be as presented. Bill said he didn’t believe so,
the Policy Committee actually controls it. Mike Bledsoe said he believed the Policy
Committee is following the direction of the District Board at the Executive Boards
recommendation. Bill said he didn’t think they were necessarily bound by it. Mike
said he would think so. Bill said it is the Policy Committees who actually writes
the Plan, not the Board. Harold Montgomery said it is a recommendation from the
Board but the Policy Committee is not under mandate to accept that. Mike said he
made the motion under the recommendation of the Board and Harold Montgomery said
that his motion was to accept this resolution upon the recommendation of the Board
and Executive Board. Randy Heath said he was just one person and he felt that if
the fees were lowered to 1/2/1 and the trash was being brought back in, this District
would be better off and if Rumpke decides to not bring the trash in and we’re in
the hole by the end of 2013 if we go to $1.50/$3.00/$1.50. Randy said he felt that
we need to bring in as much money into our district as we can. It appears that the
scenarios Rumpke has given us will allow us to bring in the most money to our district.
Randy wanted to know if the motion was to be voted on as is and could not be amended.
Bill Cole said it had to be voted on as is. Jerry Zinn said in due respect to Mr.
Heath, he was sorry this committee is not privy to everything that takes place. The
commissioners meet here month after month and deals with all the financial aspects
of this district. We as commissioners have studied this and looked at these figures
time and time again and that recommendation was unanimous by all four counties. Jim
Wooddell asked if this motion is passed how long is it in effect. Harold Montgomery
said until 2013 when we write a new Plan. Jim Wooddell asked if everything was okay
at 2/4/2 when everything was going back to Rumpke. Terri said there was a sufficient
amount of revenue coming in. Jim asked if it was done the same way, is wouldn’t
produce enough money? Jerry Zinn said he disagreed with Terri and said there was
not enough money coming in, we were still going to be broke in 2014. Terri said
for further clarification, if the expenditures would have been reigned in a little
bit better, there would have been a sufficient amount of money with that $600,000/$700,000
a year. Terri said her response in terms of sufficiency, to move forward and try
to determine how to run the programs, she felt you could run the district on $600,000/$700,000.
Jerry said sure you can but its a shames to regress on what we have been doing.
Jim Wooddell said somewhere he heard EPA said something and when it was put in writing
they did not include it. Bill said that was correct. Harold Montgomery said EPA
is on record saying we can’t enter into contracts. Mike Bledsoe said EPA was here
at one of our meetings, on record and said that. Bill Cole said EPA said when they
addressed it to the Board in writing the only thing they said was the contract expired
therefore, you have to comply with your Plan. The Plan after the expiration of the
contract does not allow for payment to Rumpke for the Host Fee. Jim Wooddell asked
why wouldn’t we get clarification from them. Mike Bledsoe said they (EPA) did put
it on record. Jim Wooddell asked if its wrong, why did they let it go on for fifteen
years, it’s EPA and he wants them on record. Mike Bledsoe said they are on record.
Jim Wooddell said he wanted it in writing. Mike Bledsoe said the tape and minutes
are record. James Cozza asked if he heard Terri say we could enter into a Memorandum
of Understanding with Rumpke to rebate back to them as was done under the contract.
Harold Montgomery said you could enter into that Memorandum of Understanding that
would be non-binding with an out clause for each party. Bill Cole said a Memorandum
of Understanding is contractual having given consideration for that contract is binding.
Tom Anderson said he felt we should make as much money as we can and at 1/2/1 we
would make more money. Mike Bledsoe questioned Tom’s statement saying he voted for
the recommendation and Tom said he didn’t vote for it, he didn’t declare. Mike said
when the Board voted it was a unanimous vote. Tom said he did not vote for it. Tom
said he thought it was locked at two and two of the Executive Committee. Terri said
Lois and Jerry wanted to stay at $1.50/$3.00/$1.50, the Executive Committee could
not make a recommendation. Jerry Zinn told Terri she cannot comment on what went
on in Executive Committee. Mike Bledsoe said he was talking about the district meeting
and it was a unanimous vote. James Cozza asked his question again to Terri. Earlier
it was stated that we could enter into a Memorandum of Understanding with Rumpke
and continue the 2/4/2 and continue the rebate back to them as was done under the
old contract that that would be legal, yes or no? Terri said if we would identify
certain services that they would provide to us for that fee. We would go away from
the rebate notion. What we would do is for X amount of dollars, Rumpke would provide
to the GJMV these services which could include similar criteria that was in the old
contract. Such as a guaranteed gate rate, which was kept fairly low by comparisons
standards, provide a transfer station if something would happen at Beech Hollow and
a certain amount of tonnage that would come into the landfill. Tom Woltz asked if
that had to be bid and Terri said what we have determined to be bid was if someone
came in and took over our recycling. Terri read part of Andrew Booker’s letter:
It appears, based on the discussion at the Board meeting, that at least some members
of the Board may have had an interest in extending the contract and had not realized
that the Plan no longer provided for this (or possibly they did not realize that
the Plan had any limiting impact on the Board to pursue the issue). It also appears
that Rumpke would prefer to have the contract extended. I understand the long standing
relationship that has existed between the GMJV SWMD and Rumpke and the significance
of the landfill to the funding of the SWMD. Unfortunately, if it was the wish of
the Board, Policy Committee, and Rumpke to extend the contract, this is an issue
that should have been fully explored during the plan writing phase and incorporated
into the Plan. At this point, the SWMD does have several options available to it,
although these options require following certain statutory procedures.
For example, if it is determined that it is desirable to lower the fee structure
and/or modify the budget, the SWMD can enact changes to the fees and possibly the
budget without going through a full plan re-write. This process would likely take
four to six months to complete. If broader changes are being contemplated to the
SWMD functions, then a full plan re-write may be warranted, which would likely take
The SWMD does have the authority to enter into contracts for a broad range of purposes,
and in the future it may make sense to secure some type of contract with the landfill
for certain services or assurances. If a contract results in significant expenditures,
however, the plan would need to be revised to reflect these expenditures. Therefore,
the SWMD would have to go through the plan revision process, or at least the process
to revise the budget section of the plan.
Terri said you can do this but we have to identify if it’s significant money we are
paying to an outside agency. Those services being provided to the district have
to be commensurate to the amount of money being involved in a contract. Those specifics
in conversation was what would be the cost of a transfer station, what would be the
cost of guaranteed tonnage, what would be the cost of the lowered gate rate, those
are certainly things that could be included if we were to go into a Memorandum of
Understanding, which would be non-binding and each party would be able to exercise
an out clause.
Jerry Hall asked if as of right now are we were getting a guarantee from Rumpke.
Harold Montgomery said no. Jerry asked if there was any way possible for Rumpke
to guarantee us $600,000 for this next year and go to the 1/2/1 until the new agreement
is formulated. That would give us a look at what we would have for the next year,
would that be an option? Harold Montgomery said he heard earlier that the Rumpke
stated that they would guarantee $600,000 minimum. Harold Montgomery said they need
to vote on the motion, which is to adopt the $1.50/$3.00/$1.50 fee, if it not adopted,
we need to have an alternative. Roll Call was called for backwards at the request
of the chairman: Jerry Zinn for Vicki Maxwell, yes; Jerry Hawk for Matt Chesser,
yes; Rex Phillips, not present; L.J. Stewart for Nick Rupert, no; Janelle McManis,
not present; Jim Wooddell, yes; Mike Bledsoe, yes; John Musser, no; Marilyn Anderson,
no; Jon Jacobs, no; Dave Weber, not present; Larry Marshall, not present; Mike Gerlach,
no; Tom Anderson, no; Tom Carlisle, not present; Roy Arthur, no; Tom Woltz, no; Dan
Lockard, not present; Greg Ervin, no; Randy Heath, no; Jerry Hall, no; Brett Boothe,
not present; Randy Halley, yes; Doug Lester, yes; Terri Hemby for Barb Bradley, yes;
James Allen, yes; James Cozza, no; Harold Montgomery, yes; 9 yes votes and 12 no
votes. Motion failed.
Randy Heath made a motion, 0711 – B, to change the fees to $1.00 In district, $2.00
Out of District and $1.00 Out of State contingent on a guarantee of $600,000 a year
from Rumpke Waste. Terri said they should explore additional things that would be
similar to the previous contract if they are going to go that route. Greg Ervin
said such as the gate rate, transfer station, specific tonnage. Randy Heath withdrew
his motion and made another motion that the Board adopt Resolution 0711 – B, the
numbers $1.50/$3.00/$1.50 are changed to $1.00/$2.00/$1.00. Contingent upon Rumpke
guaranteeing $600,000. Harold Montgomery asked Mr. Cole if they could put a district
rate with stipulations. Bill Cole said if you put it with stipulations you can’t
go out until the stipulations are met. Harold asked how EPA would feel about that
and Bill Cole said EPA has no control on how we change our fees. Harold asked if
they should run it by EPA before they took official action. Bill said if you want
something in writing, yes. Harold asked if a Memorandum of Understanding remained
the same at 2/4/2 with a side bar of conditions with the landfills of the district
to increase tonnage, the same thing we had before with different wording. Terri
asked if that would still necessitate the terminology of indemnification. Bill Cole
said yes. Terri asked if that could be perceived as circumventing the fee structure.
Bill Cole said not if we enter into the same agreement or similar understanding
with Waste Management.
Harold Montgomery recommended that we go into a MOU with both landfills of the district
and leave the fees at 2/4/2. Terri said it is important that we specifically clarify
for what services we will be returning half of those tipping fees back to private
operators. Bill said you can add an amendment to the 1/2/1 or you can enter into
that agreement and the Policy Committee can choose not to take any action. Harold
Montgomery said that would only be until 2013 and then they would re-write the policy.
Randy Heath withdrew all of his motions. Randy Heath made a motion to leave the
fee structure at 2/4/2 with the understanding that wishes Policy Committee be referred
back to the Board of Directors to see if a Memorandum of Understanding can be agreed
to with the landfill operators of the district with the scenario where we can return
the 1/2/1 to them in exchange for service we believe are deemed warranted. Greg
Ervin seconded the motion. All were in favor of the motion.
With a motion by Mike Bledsoe and a second by Tom Anderson, the Policy Committee
adjourned at 3:38 p.m.
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